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Author Topic: 24 Ulcers of Lemons: It's race day. Wake up and vomit.  (Read 162507 times)
malcolm



« Reply #225 on: June 06, 2012, 02:29:46 PM »

Kill switch on the bumper?  Seriously?  Wow.

That aside, looks good!
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« Reply #226 on: June 11, 2012, 11:04:21 PM »

Most fun I've had in a long time behind the wheel of this thing last weekend. Thanks again Crab
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Crab Spirits


Location: Chicago

« Reply #227 on: June 11, 2012, 11:30:45 PM »

This race actually went pretty well. Car was strong all weekend. When that happens, our hopes go up as we climb up the leaderboard...then we fuck everything up.

For the inspection, I wanted to bring a nice bribe for the judges. They've been progressively scrutinizing it more carefully now that they know it is getting more refined. I read this blog post by Judge Phil and got a good laugh out of it. So Rob got some "tormented monkey skull faced lion" Brougham shirts made up at TF based on the Mercury emblem. Upon receiving the shirts, Phil said "Now this comes from the heart!", knocked us down to B class again with no laps, and gave us a sweet Al Capone "BRIBED" stencil on the roof. (AIM Philll at TougeFactory if you would like a Brougham shirt. They are sweet.)

On Saturday Aaron, Rob, and Shamwow take their turns and fully exploit the fuel to roughly 2h15m between pitting. We have some minor issues with the comms, cool suit pump, and fueling, but nothing too bad. We are keeping pace in the teens and staying in the top of our class. Then TF Dave goes in the car to finish the day. As soon as he enters the track, he is black flagged for crossing the blend line even with no traffic. This wasn't something that was covered really and we are all like "huh?". He's just told to pay attention to it and sent back out. Then they want to bf us for our bouncy hood. The radiator support has been really weak on the car from day one which makes it appear loose at speed. I was supposed to fix it before this race, but forgot all about it. About 15min later, he gets bf'd for dropping a tire off. Another slap on the wrist and back out. Dave is really driving the car hard, but I tell him the judges "have no more strings to pull" for us. After a few more minutes, a crack develops in the radiator support, and makes the hood situation severe. We are ordered to fix the damn hood and "It better be fixed right". We brought no drill, so have to borrow one in order to cludge a canister bracket/ziptie support stay. Hood is now good, but repair took 45min. Dave is back on the track at a slower pace for awhile when he spins the car at the end of the back straight. His excuse is he missed a shift and the engine stalled out.  Fortunately, we aren't the only ones getting penalties, so the damage isn't too bad. Teams are also having mech trouble as well. Our neighbors blow a fuel line on track and cause a red flag, stopping everyone on track for the cleanup. Thanks. Penalty cone goes on the roof like a little dunce cap and we go back out. Finish the day in 18th of 60.

After going over the car, we realize we have a pretty good oil and trans fluid leak as well as some other minor annoyances. The muffler (the less deere one) exploded again too. Plans are made to get necessary stuff from the shop and fix it first thing in the morning. Attention is now focused on Shamwow's borrowed trailer. OMG.... I sold the car to him, so he had to, somewhat short notice, drag a homemade trailer out of some woods to haul it back to Michigan. This thing was so unbelievably horrific that lemons guys were staring at it in amazement. Four mis-matched dry-rotted car tires, temporary fence posts welded together, no plates, shattered lighting, 2" ground clearance sparking everywhere. It looked like a shipwreck on wheels. We replaced the tires with some much better junkyard stuff until dead tired.

Sunday morning, we all woke up late and gave ourselves no time to accomplish anything before green.  We pull off the leaky oil pressure sender and plug it. Just before I am about to go out, we start the car to test. Oil starts shooting out of the cracked adapter. Upon removal, the adapter snaps off in the fitting. The guys finally get the shards out of the fitting and plug it about 10 minutes into the race.

I hop in and go out with no cool suit. In about 15min I daydream or something. I bungle turn 3, do a rail grind on the curbing and dart back onto the track in a tankslapper. For some reason, no bf is called. Instead, the corner worker gives me thumbs up in appreciation. Towards the end of my stint, I find out what Dave might have done. While downshifting at the end of the back straight, I mis-shift into 5th. The revs drop and I think the engine stalled. So I am hard on the brakes, clutch out to re-light this thing and rapidly running out of room. Fortunately, I had time to glance at the tach, showing 1500rpm, dodge a chevy monza, and grab 3rd before sailing off track. I am totally drenched in sweat at this point and it all runs off my forehead into my eyes. I pit immediately.



Shamwow drives next, and then Eric finishes the day off with some impressive battles. He clocks a 1:46, which is in the top 10 range I believe. Keep in mind, most of these fast cars have heavy duty aftermarket brake upgrades. It's kind of un-lemony and annoying. They absolutely destroy us under braking, and our brakes are not that bad. If we had a $2000 brake upgrade, we could do some damage.

Results still not in yet, but I believe we nabbed 12th. If only...
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GG Simba
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« Reply #228 on: June 12, 2012, 06:14:11 PM »

Gald this thing held together for once!
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« Reply #229 on: June 13, 2012, 09:11:25 AM »

Everything from the driving to the last minute repair and team work sounds like sssoooo much fun!
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Risky Devil!
You all ruined drifting. All the fucking forieners and thier influance on it fucked it like a hammered bag of assholes. The whole point was to make it the worst handeling, eye catching machine possable and then make it fly.  The skill was controling the beats not fucking auto pilot.

Your all going to Hell.
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« Reply #230 on: June 13, 2012, 11:17:35 AM »

stack to sets of rotors w/ 2 calipers per wheel??????


cheap, and doubles braking capacity?
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malcolm



« Reply #231 on: June 13, 2012, 02:13:30 PM »

Or easier, two calipers per rotor.

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MR 1JZ


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« Reply #232 on: June 13, 2012, 05:39:34 PM »

wont that heat the fuck out of the rotors and pads quick smart?
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malcolm



« Reply #233 on: June 13, 2012, 08:28:05 PM »

To be totally honest, I bet the actual brakes are fine, unless they run drum brakes.

They just need better pads, fluid, and lots of air ducting to the brakes.  Some Performance Friction pads, Ford 550 Dot 3, and some brake hose that goes all the way up inside the back of the rotor (maybe with a shield so the air gets forced through the rotor), with those Butler scoops, and they'd be able to stop that thing on a dime all day long.  If they're not vented rotors, even aiming it really close should do the trick.  Mounting a Gurney on the leading edge of the wheel opening would help matters even more.

If you can lock the wheels, your brakes are good enough.
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Crab Spirits


Location: Chicago

« Reply #234 on: February 23, 2013, 02:19:13 PM »

The previous owner just sent me this video he took of the car in it's heyday.
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Shamwow


Location: SW Michigan

« Reply #235 on: April 17, 2013, 05:46:42 PM »

The Sick Gut has changed hands, and now I'm the one waking up with panic attacks and stress-farts.

The car returned from the last race and was stored in my friends swank garage all winter.


A dream was born to enter the April Race at Gingerman Raceway in South Haven. A team was assembled, with Aaron and myself carrying over, and three new guys joining in.

We all banded together and began working on the car:

John installed real headlight housings and turn signals, JY sourced by crab spirits. Once the insurance quote comes in, this baby will be street legal. I can't wait to drive it into the office some morning. 



This TS flasher was the winning ticket for working lights. Well, after I spent 4hrs redoing the wiring to oe spec  Confused


Crab also sourced a cooler, pushloc hose, and a filter housing from some golf-course equipment.  I machined a check valve housing and bought a pump, and we threw it together onto the SHO's five speed. Redline D4 was pumped in. Maybe the trans won't smoke itself every race now?

check valve


Filter assembly


Searching for the lemons style mounting bolts...


Aaron mounted the cooler inside our rear wheel vent:


Okay, onto the brakes.  Previously our brakes have been decent, but the fast guys always punish us with their aftermarket (budget exempt) setups.  It turns out that the 99-04 Mustang Cobra brakes are a direct bolt on!

Correction. Sort of bolt on:

I milled em down:


Drill+tap:


Boom, . .75" upgrade in rotor size and a full floating aluminum caliper.  I paired with Hawk Blue race pads and 600f fluid. John/Jamie installed some 3" drier duct for cooling.




Some junkyard searching with crab and aaron led to some nice discoveries.  A 1" MC was located in a rare Suzuki Grand Vitara. Just the ticket we needed for our big brake upgrade.


We also found these sick lincoln Mark VIII wheels for the front, allowing an upgrade from 16x6 to 16x7! Offset/bolt pattern was a match!


The washing machine was blown up later that day:

A few more fixes were implemented:
After suspension inspection we found a cracked stance mount. Luckily the knuckles "clamp mount" acted as a double safety. I went ahead and pre-heated and tig-welded back together:


The muffler exploded again! I cut it apart and TIG welded it back together again.





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Great! we all thought.  Lets sign up for a open test day at Gingerman Raceway! That way we can practice and be ultra prepared.  We took the car around the block for first test drive and marveled at our brake upgrade., it became evident that the SHO motor wasnt running well. A terrible misfire occured at high RPM/load.  What transpired afterwards is referred to as the week from hell. 

Initial diagnostics showed that the plug wells had filled up with oil (again) and killed our spark plug wires. One wire was arcing all over and another had come apart. Two nights were spent replacing the valve cover gaskets and installing new plugs and wires.. only to find the problem remained.

As the test weekend drew near, I found myself pulling some pretty late nights. OBDII scan codes showed nothing, but I swapped all kinds of sensors anyways.  Fuel pressure check was attempted but gage was broken.  Eventually, a new gage was purchased and fuel pressure was only 15psi! Dis-assembly of the fuel tank revealed a burst hose.  Mind you, this is the hose which came with the $1200 fuel cell...


I called the company, they apologized, and sent out a new piece of Aeroquip FCM hose (which I don't think is fully submersion rated either...). I machined this adapter to go from the -8 bulkhead and hose down to the -6 fuel pump outlet. Previously a -8 hose was hastily double clamped around the -6 pump.


Then we took the car to the track day!


It went pretty smooth. Except on the drive there we found the suzuki 1" MC wasnt venting back to reservoir causing the brakes to lock up.  Oh, and the CV joint started vibrating terribly.  Oh and the brake proportioning was terrible. Oh and one of the tie-rods wore out.   Confused  Overall though, everyone got to drive and our new guys gained some good experience.

New tie rod, new CV shaft, good used intermediate shaft, and new ball joint...


Diagnosing the brake MC, we found that the rod length was different. John spent a lot of time under the dash, swapping these around.


We modified the 1" and got a spare 15/16" junkyard unit.  We now have a 7/8", 15/16" and 1" MC, all JY sourced, for tuning.


New 215/45/16 Falken Azenis were purchased to fully exploit our junkyard Mark VIII wheels. A matching 235/40/17 pair was installed in the rear.




John cut up a windshield washer filler tank from his work. It works awesome for fueling.


Gingerman lemons is this weekend! "We are ready as shit"
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Forge_55b


Location: Redondo Beach

« Reply #236 on: April 17, 2013, 06:02:38 PM »

this is the best car on ziptied.  period.
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george
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« Reply #237 on: April 17, 2013, 06:37:51 PM »

i never understood the budget rules of lemons.  don't you get $500 to make a racecar?  then they allow things like brakes/wheels/tires/safety as unlimited right.
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-George
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« Reply #238 on: April 17, 2013, 06:43:26 PM »

from what I've read on it, beer buys waivers.  biggrin
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ride4lame
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« Reply #239 on: April 17, 2013, 08:39:46 PM »

i love this thread.
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